The Purposes And Pitfalls Of Revolution
72 Comments »By Giordano Bruno
Neithercorp Press – 3/22/2010
“The Shot Heard Round the World” by Domenick D’Andrea
In every human being there exists a balance, an internal fulcrum, a guide to what is honest, to what is true and constant. When this balance within us is broken, by ourselves or by others, it tends to attract grief and desolation, like some terrible and ferocious gravity. Just as this is true for individuals, so is it true for nations.
A country’s political structure must reflect accurately the dreams and aspirations of its people, and foster those dreams with respect and care. In most cases throughout history, this does not occur. Often, the desires of government break from the life of the people and it becomes an obstacle to the intellectual, philosophical, and spiritual progress of men it was originally designed to protect.
This change takes shape through the mechanizations of elitism; the conception of organized minorities who believe that they are gifted with “superior insight,” and are thus better qualified to make decisions for the people than the people are for themselves. They pose as our saviors, as defenders of the species, as “parents” of the social order. They invoke this image just as much for their personal benefit as they do to keep the masses agreeable. They want to believe that they are noble, that they serve the so called greater good. In every tyrant’s mind there is rooted a unique rationalization, an ambition towards a twisted brand of heroism, but they have neither the wisdom nor the fortitude of heart necessary to become truly heroic. Because elitists and their fractured ideas can never earn the fundamental and voluntary admiration of the citizenry, they turn towards thoughts of power, domination, and deceit. If the people cannot be convinced to accept their supremacy, then perhaps they can be forced.
This philosophy poisons cultures, making them volatile, self-destructive, explosively unstable. In the process of attempting to coerce society into a particular kind of “order,” elites actually sow the seeds of disorder. Internally, people know when they are being oppressed, though they may not immediately and consciously recognize it, and this pain of imbalance can grow into a collective storm. In this way, humanity turns away from the establishment, away from complacency, and towards revolution.
Revolution is necessary when injustice and criminality become the tools of government to maintain authority. True authority is derived from earned esteem through decisive and honorable actions. A real leader, leads by example, not force. When dishonorable leaders pervade a nation without accountability, they must be uprooted, or that nation will pay a terrifying and incomprehensible price.
However, in revolution, there can be many consequences and pitfalls. Nothing is ever as simple as getting up from one’s chair and taking to the streets. Without a conscience, without an honest methodology, revolution can become as nightmarish as the tyrants it seeks to overthrow.
In this article we will examine some of the ideas that make for successful and meaningful revolution, as well as those that lead only to disaster…
Truth, Not Anger, Must Drive Rebellion
I have heard it said that revolution is “its own justification,” usually from people who style themselves towards the so called “Far Left,” of our political spectrum. I may have even said it once or twice long ago when I was still a Democrat. But, anyone who has deeply studied the history of revolutionary action understands that it is in no way its own justification. Rebelling simply because one knows nothing of himself or his circumstances, because one is merely ‘angry’, is foolish, and leads to monstrous forms of moral relativism. I call this ‘the revolutionary mask’; and it develops when a person who is fundamentally weak in character takes on the notion of rebellion as a faux identity. For them, revolt requires no purpose or goal beyond self gratification. This is why overtly Socialist methodologies prevail in college and university settings; most (not all) people at the college age have not yet developed self awareness, nor do they have ample experience of life. Their inner contents have been neglected, often because at a young age our society discourages us from bothering to look within.
They feel when there is an imbalance in their world, but are not equipped to understand it. The revolutionary mask allows them to placate their anger and confusion without requiring them to make the effort of fully understanding the problem. Like toddlers, they rebel to feel like they are making a difference, even though subconsciously they know they are not. At bottom, the world does not need yet another uprising of overgrown children…
Certain brands of Anarchism (not all of them) also subscribe to the revolutionary mask concept. Proponents usually believe in an existentialist basis for insurrection, and this includes the adoption of “blank slate theory” (a thoroughly discredited fancy) which suggests that all human beings are inherently empty and devoid of morality, making ideas of right and wrong “relative.”
When a revolution is overwhelmed by such people, individual liberty is thrown to the wayside, and mindless collectivism takes hold. The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia and the birth of Communism is a perfect example of rebellion gone awry, resulting in nothing but empty futility. In a collectivist revolution, there is a denial of innate truth; the truth of individualism and its necessity in successful society. Without the individual, without an acknowledgment of inborn contents such as unique personality and universal conscience, life bears no meaning, and so revolution becomes inconsequential.
In fact, if Socialist revolutionaries were correct in their belief that there is no inherent conscience or morality, then no man would ever rebel, because without an internal sense of justice, he would never question his circumstances. Environment would determine his outlook completely, and whoever controlled that environment would in turn control his moral bearing. As most of us know, though, this is not the reality of the human condition.
Revolution cannot succeed, nor even exist, without fundamental truth, and the act of rebellion must be inspired by the need to restore balance, not destroy it. Otherwise, no good can ever be achieved. Without archetypal conscience, man lashes out blindly, and discovers too late that he has only injured himself.
Know Who The Real Enemy Is
American politics today are like an overly long joke with an unintelligible punchline at the end. Many in the U.S. are so caught up in the pageantry of the left/right paradigm that they don’t realize it is a ridiculous farce. There are even people (on both sides) who understand that we are dealing with a globalist minority, but still think that these elites are somehow affiliated Democrats, or dedicated “Right Wingers.” They write blogs and journals and diatribes on the threat of centralization and global government, raising my personal hopes, then end up blaming all our ills on “extremist right wing nuts” or “extremist left wing commies.” I can’t help but slap my own forehead in disappointment. The insane obsession with Left and Right must end if we are ever to stop the Globalists from thriving.
Taking aim at the wrong opponent, blaming a proxy for the crimes of an entirely different group, is very common in revolution, and this is frequently enabled by the elites themselves. Life is not a football game with clearly delineated sides, but we seem to enjoy treating it as such. It makes the world simple. It allows us to relax and not have to think or scrutinize over why we believe what we believe. It also encourages the illusion that many of the malfunctions in our country are caused by “random chance,” chaos, and political indecision. Even though it is becoming more obvious to the general public that the Democratic and Republican leadership have the same exact agenda and push the same exact Anti-Constitutional legislation, they still cannot accept that this is by deliberate design. Sometimes, it is easier for people to close their eyes and swear by coincidence than it is to open them and honestly appraise the ugliness dancing in their doorway. This collective mental block helps to insulate globalist groups, such as Central Bankers, the CFR, the Bilderberg Group, etc., from any blame, and any retribution.
By controlling the leadership of the only two major parties made available to us, Globalists in government do indeed engineer disasters in our culture, and thus garner much of the culpability for the disjointed nature of our society. The rest of the blame goes to the average American, who is unwilling to make the slightest effort to study on his immediate situation, or to care about his overall future with any sincerity. The great danger lay in the moment when these people finally do snap under the growing weight of injustice in their environment, and mindlessly attack the first group they imagine to be responsible. Most revolutions in history have gone in this unfortunate direction, always resulting in the deaths of innocent scapegoats, and providing the opening for even more tyranny.
In this scenario, the elitists who discreetly triggered the breakdown of the nation usually escape untouched, ready to start the entire process over once again, until every ounce of power and influence is siphoned away from the people.
Unguarded Movements Are Always Co-Opted
Elitists understand all too well that every move to acquire new power draws natural polarized opposition. It is the way the universe works. In many cases (especially in modern times) the Globalists cannot meet and disrupt every one of these movements head on. Instead, they sit back and allow them to develop as they naturally would. When these rebellious groups appear ready to mature into an organized and serious threat to centralized power, Elitists’ primary strategy is to co-opt them.
A direct confrontation carries incredible risk for the Globalists. They are, after all, a minority subculture that is heavily outnumbered. When the presentation of a scapegoat is not enough to bamboozle the masses, co-option can be used to deflect the momentum of revolution. COINTELPRO, a program instituted by the FBI in the 60’s and 70’s, is a well documented example of government disruption tactics. FBI “moles” insinuated themselves into anti-war and anti-federal groups, then created internal divisions, played egos, promoted undue violent acts to discredit the cause, and in some cases even weaseled their way into leadership positions in protest organizations, allowing them to totally unbalance and sabotage them. These same tactics are used today, with very little variation, except that the false left / right paradigm is utilized much more effectively.
Republicans, who once considered themselves conservative and anti-big government, were utterly seduced by the sales-pitch of neo-conservatism. George W. Bush used the “War on Terror” as an excuse to triple the size of the Federal Government and introduce legislation like the Patriot Act that lays the groundwork for the dissolution of civil liberties and the institution of dictatorship. Hardly a traditional conservative philosophy. Yet, orthodox Republicans, whose root beliefs are an obstacle to the formation of world government, were overtaken and then led by the same elitists they despised; all because they refused to hold true to their individualist traditions, and were manipulated like cattle into focusing their attentions on fabricated enemies.
Democrats are just as guilty. Not long ago they were building a large and intricate network of protest groups throughout the presidency of George W. Bush with the express goal of stopping aggression and wholesale slaughter in the Middle East. In response, the Globalists bowled their entire weight behind the campaign of Barack Obama. Immediately, Democratic resistance to the war crumbled as Obama assumed power and instituted the same exact foreign policy as his predecessor. His promises of leaving Iraq within 6 months of his election were quickly forgotten, and he has exacerbated conflict in Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan. Some Dems even began to support the war, casting their principles to the wayside simply because a Democratic candidate was now in office. Only after Obama buried Patriot Act renewal legislation in his latest jobs bill did some still considering themselves Democrats finally realize that their candidate of “hope” was nothing more than a puppet for Globalist interests.
The Liberty Movement itself is facing co-option assaults as neo-conservatives who once attacked us, now falsely rally to join us! Globalists fear a Republican return to traditional individualism, a methodology we expound with vigor and proficiency in the Liberty Movement. It is only natural that they would endeavor to divide and dismantle us by overtaking us with the same strategy again; “neo-con” (a bogus ideology) vs. “traditionalist.” Also, by forcing the now widely despised “neo-con” label onto the Liberty Movement, many Democrats who may have listened openly and objectively to our arguments will now turn away from us blindly without any consideration.
Co-option works when a movement is not self-aware, when it does not stand on steady foundations. Revolutionaries must constantly examine and reaffirm their commitment to their original ideal, and that ideal must be centered on internal truth, and uncompromising individuality. Without these two elements, no revolution can succeed in removing elitism or mindless collectivism for any significant period of time. Movements grounded in self-awareness cannot be induced towards bias and misdirection, nor can they be overtaken by false leadership. A revolution of true individuals cannot be subverted, only confronted on its own terms.
Peaceful Resistance, Or Armed Revolt?
There is a very common misconception amongst the average citizen when considering the intricacies of rebellion; the misconception that one must “choose” between peaceful and violent revolution, that one ideal must somehow be subservient to the other. Actually, these two methodologies work in tandem, and compliment each other depending on the circumstances of revolt.
One might ask, “How is it possible to support peaceful and violent means of revolution at the same time?”
Actually, the philosophy of the Martial Arts is designed around this very concept, turning what we thought was a contradiction, into a symbiotic relationship. A martial artist draws a mental line in the sand. He retains a peaceful, non-aggressive attitude up to this mental line, sometimes allowing jabs at his ego or his beliefs in order to maintain a non-violent dialogue. When this line is crossed though, when no concordance can be found and the enemy becomes life threatening, he neutralizes that threat with corresponding force. Meaning, the martial artist is trained to use both non-violent and violent means to resolve the situation depending on the circumstance.
Peaceful Resistance is a tool. It is the first line of defense in the fight against tyrannical imperative. However, it is only effective as long as the oppressive government finds it necessary to limit its own brutality. In the case of Gandhi’s peaceful rebellion against the British Empire, government brutality worked against British interests because they were required by the atmosphere of the times to appear as though they cared about the Indian people they were trying to subjugate. Public sentiment was important to the elites at that particular moment in history, and so Gandhi’s non-violent method worked to his advantage. However, there is a limit to the peaceful method’s success…
If Gandhi had been born German and Jewish, for instance, and organized non-violent resistance to Nazi aggression, it is likely he would have been murdered within a fortnight along with anyone who followed him. The Nazis (another elitist organization) had absolutely no concern over world opinion, and they certainly had little interest in appearing “just,” thus, their brutality was unlimited. Peaceful revolution requires that a person be willing to sacrifice everything, even their own life, without fighting back, in order to make an undeniable psychological impression on the public and their aggressor. But what if the aggressor has abandoned conscience and morality? What if the rest of the public is not in a position to exert “concern” over your movement’s welfare? What if the government is willing to kill you and your people with indiscriminate impunity because it is likely they will suffer little consequence? In this situation, your peaceful sacrifice becomes empty. It achieves nothing.
Therefore, the manner of a revolution is entirely dependent upon the circumstances of the moment at which it takes shape. If a movement limits itself to non-violence in the face of another fascist-like government, one which seeks global control and the annihilation of any resistance, if they refuse to adapt when necessary, they will fail, they will be written out of the history books, and they will be forgotten. As in the martial arts, a revolution must know when the line has been crossed, and it is time to defend itself.
The Purpose Of Revolution
The word “revolution” draws a loaded set of reactions from people living in our information age. It elicits ire, suspicion, even shock, and with good reason. Most revolutions of the past two centuries have ended in disaster for the people who supported them, leading only to a more tragic state of affairs than what they had suffered before. We have grown to distrust immediate change, even when the alternative is a misery stretching generations. We turn towards words like “hope”; hollow words that denote apathy and vacillation. When one “hopes” for change, one generally sits and waits. Unfortunately, people like this realize too little too late that it takes much more than a “positive disposition” to establish a viable and sovereign future. It takes work, and it takes will. Somewhere along the line, “revolution” became a four letter word in our culture, but the reality is, revolution is a logical extension of all cultures. If imbalance exists, it must be undone, one way or another. There will always be times in which revolt is the only rational option.
The natural inclinations of man lean towards a search for wholeness, connection, and understanding, not isolation and obscurity, not slavery. When a government turns away from the people, when it institutes laws and legislation that are an affront to the average citizen and benefit only a select few, when it turns towards domination and fear as its means of social communication, when it must lie unswervingly in order to function, it is no longer feasible, nor maintainable. It cannot exist without offending the intuitive proclivities of a free people.
Often these kinds of governments refuse to be diplomatically replaced, even if the laws of a system demand it be done. The only remaining alternative is for the average man to take matters into his own hands, and drag them kicking and screaming from their self-appointed throne. Whether we like the term or not, this act is called “revolution.” Not “terrorism,” not “insurgency,” not “extremism,” but REVOLUTION.
All men who seek to keep a patch of earth free from despotism, as long as they remain faithful to the ideals of individuality, and truth, honor the tradition of revolution. A war for liberty, whether waged with information, or with force of arms, is one of the few wars worth fighting for, worth dying for. Victory requires not that we “hope,” but that we act. Not that we “believe,” but that we know. To stand in defiance of criminal reign, regardless of the odds. To truly risk something for the sake of ourselves, and for the sake of others. To cast aside the malformed standards of an age, and begin anew. This is not extreme. This is essential.
RSS
Can somebody point to an instance where the Ruling Class ever gave anything to the Lower Class without the threat of violence?
All this Jib-Jab about revolution is poppycock.
It is the media which must be “at the center of any citizen action in order for any type of change to prevail.
If you don’t control the media, revolution is still born.
It is the media which promotes the “System” and not corporations or the banking elites.
Any pro-active protests must be aimed at all media outlets and not banks or the political parties.
Revolutionairies must take control of the media first and foremost.
All media outlets in every community must be brought to their knees or “Change” has little chance of success.
The media will never give us truth because truth would riots and during a riot, people don’t buy newspapers, they steal them.
Calm
Great Article Gio, Thanks so much…
Calm:
I think the information war is important, but I’m not sure exactly what you mean by “media”? If you mean the MSM, TV talking heads, and WSJ editorials, then I would have to disagree that we need those outlets for a successful revolution. Actually, the MSM has now been outgunned by internet news as recent reports show that more American use web news than watch TV. And who dominates web news? People like us!
In fact, the internet has allowed for more growth in the Liberty Movement than anyone ever thought possible. This is why the MSM is going to great lengths to label us “extremists”. They would not make such an effort if we were not a legitimate threat. Honestly, I think we DO control the majority of media, if by media you mean the free flow of data.
Hi! giordano
My point was that no revolution will succeed without the revolutionists taking control of the media.
As an example ….
Revolutionists must have as a first priority, the abilty to control any media source within their sphere of influence.
If not, the Ruling Class will utilize all media in order to destroy any type of revolution.
As far as the internet goes …..
The Ruling Class will shut it down if push comes to shove.
It is not government or the economic terrorists which pose the largest problem to revolutionists …. it is media.
Calm
Calm:
I agree for the most part, although, the media can’t point a gun at me, so I suppose it is at that point where media power stops and government power begins. I think if we are to succeed in stopping forced globalism, we will have to fight the information war just as hard as we would fight any physical war. One fight lends itself to the other.
When a revolutionist is shot, it is the media which will praise the shooter and condemn the revolutionist.
The media reporting would be more damaging to the revolutionist cause than the shooting itself.
Calm
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Calm:
That is true, but the media is not the SOURCE of the disinformation, they are merely a tool for that purpose. Government, and the elitists, are the source. Anyone with enough money can set up a media outlet. We take one over, they create another. It would be an endless futile game which never addresses the core problem; the Globalists themselves.
Let’s be realistic. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else can fully control media. Not even the elites are able to do that. The Chinese CCP hasn’t been able to do it, and they are the model for the NWO!
The goal of somehow taking over all media is not attainable. However, removing globalists from power, THAT is attainable, and it has the the added bonus of removing the problem at its root.
Media disinformation is a fact of life as long as globalists remain in control. Taking over media, even by force (which is what you seem to be suggesting) will not stop disinformation from being spread. The only way to combat disinformation is through tireless efforts to educate and enlighten our fellow man. It may be unnerving to some of us, but eventually, we will have to trust average Americans to decipher the truth for themselves. This is the essence of a free society after all…
Sir:
Respectfully – if you consider the protracted indignities that Bruno suffered at the hands of the Church (or rather, it’s bureaucratically insulated ‘independent contractor,’ so to speak,) you might pay him due respect and refrain from publishing under his name. Furthermore, given the dearth of comprehensive Anglophone writing on Bruno – e.g, of Yates, Singer, Mendoza, Couliano, none investigated the breadth of his work – it is admittedly difficult to get a handle on any one of his systemic components (mnemotechnical, cosmological, semiotic, metapsychological, etc.) never mind the interdependent whole. Nevertheless, renewed interest amongst emerging scholars, e.g. the ‘Speculative Realism / Object-Oriented Ontology’ camp may perhaps herald, if not a ‘return to Bruno,’ at least a wave of informed exegesis such as we haven’t seen since Beckett, Joyce et al. That said, again, please reconsider your strategy of ‘borrowing’ his identity. Simply writing about him under another moniker would serve you just as well, if not better. Regards.
Non-Bruno:
While your overt utilization of the thesaurus is amusing to me, I fail to see what my use of the name Giordano Bruno has to do with the subject of this article. In fact, even in concerns to my pen-name, I fail to see where you make an actual point. Your post lacks any substance, but you attempt to hide this by shrouding it in the flowery language of the faux “intellectual”.
Firstly, I am not “writing about Giordano Bruno”, though I HAVE read all of his works and most works about him. Whether or not this “qualifies” me to write under his name is irrelevant. A debate for idiots, if you will.
As far as his death goes, lets just say I write under his name out of RESPECT for his sacrifice, which I find is far beyond the emotional and rational comprehension of most so called scholars.
To summarize, I will continue to compose under this name. I suggest you concern yourself with far more important matters, such as the subject matter in the article above, instead of wasting your time and your life policing the internet for aliases that offend your delicate sensibilities.
I was sort of thinking “Small-Time”.
Revolution will never take place across the complete country at one moment in time.
I was thinking that if revolutionists were to take control of a single commmunity, (for a starter) they would first need to control the media outlets within the community or the media will destroy them.
About Globalization ….
I once watched an interview with Dick Armey and where he discussed Free Trade. He chuckled aloud at the “Stupidity” of other countries who “Foolishly” traded goods and services with the U.S. and took a piece of paper as payment.
He said that it was a great deal for the U.S.. That the U.S. purchased goods and services in today’s dollar value and then repaid the debt with devalued dollars at a future date.
Calm
Calm:
Sounds like a practical strategy. I think we see eye-to-eye on most things.
@Giordano: I wonder what is your view on possible class world war. What happens if the elite simply turn off internet? What happens if they deliberately destroy euro, dollar and youan at the same time? Isn’t this more likely scenario of our future? Think of it: They don’t need money any more we do and there are way too many of us on this overcrowded planet.
Congratulation Giordano!
It appears that you have reached a pinnacle of becoming a target by the Marxist faction of elites. Do not waste your time, effort and energy arguing with these media terrorist. It is what they desire. Their mission is to draw you into sustainable argument that will keep you from focusing on your task at hand, robbing you of strength and minimizing your research time. Please continue with the enlightenment.
Giordano…
This is the first time I have visited this site…since viewing
the movie “Collapse,” I have been researching for 2 weeks straight.
I must say I have had my head buried in the sand, as I experience my own personal collapse. I have been able to convince myself the pit in my stomach is more of an attachment or loss to the greedy life I was so shamelesly living. I feel there are a lot of people that have not been exposed to our fate; however they recognize a deep feeling of
dis-ease that is unexplained. I am “hoping” as the truth becomes undeniable people will release old idealogies and attachments as I have and will accept the truth of the age we live.
I am now moving from a frantic realization stage, into a more calmer purposeful action phase.
I am most impressed by your patient replys…I feel it will take articulate and centered individuals to progress a movement like this forward.
As a now messenger I could use some lessons from you on how to communicate with a calmness even with the harshest of resistance.
Awakening mother of 2 from the burbs…
“When stout hearted men can stick together man to man.” “Our strength is in our diversity.” The first line is an old song and the second is a quote from Slick Willy Clinton.
Ok, so let’s say every city takes over it’s local TV and Radio stations and begins broadcasting that the Federal reserve has destroyed America’s finances and that the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Bilderbergs have controlled the elections and political process for decades while destroying the education system, the government and the minds of the people. Assuming we got that far and got everyone near a TV or radio to agree with us, what then are we going to agree on that will unite us for future policy once we rid ourselves of the current elite bankers? There’s not enough gold and silver in the world to represent all of the financial transactions that have come about in the world and the printing presses can’t keep up as it is. We have a nation of people who have become so diverse in religion and so far from God that there is no way, short of an all out slaughter to get everyone in agreement.
I don’t see much chance of anything but temporary resistance to new taxes and genocide of the population coming from this. Sure, a return to the days of Reagan and the fall of the Berlin wall might be intriguing, but justice has to come when a nation tolerates feminism, abortion and homosexuality as America and the world have done. God sees to it. Having said that, we still have a responsibility to stand up for what is right.
Jay:
As far as getting everyone to agree on religion and sexual orientation, that is definitely not going to happen, nor would it be healthy for the country if it did. One of the things we need to realize is that even a revolution based in Christian ideals has the potential to become a collectivist nightmare if they ignore individualist liberties. It has happened in the past. Dark Ages anyone? The Founding Fathers (not Bill Clinton) promoted “diversity” for a reason.
I think we should concern ourselves with the criminal actions of the elites, not the personal lives of our fellow Americans. You can’t change everyone to fit your version of the ‘perfect citizen’. That’s exactly what the elites want to do.
You can only live YOUR life the way you and your conscience deem best.
I agree with you in just about every aspect and I am waiting for the revolution to start. Also Calm is right we need to take control of the media first if not it will be crushed quicker than it was started. In my experience propaganda destroys rebels quicker than bullets.
It doesnt matter what religion you are it shouldnt be pitched that way it should be said if you want freedom and control of your life not Im christian. We need liberty.
Where to start?
First, Giodarni, a rare thing to come across these days…. Wisdom.
Temper it also with knowledge and understanding. Untempered steel is brittle and breaks easily with little stress though it is extremely hard. Forge it in the fires of conviction and morality.
To everyone:
Such buzz phrases we use. ‘Liberty’… ‘Freedom’… Though stirring, they are empty and without meaning by themselves. If we find ourselves liers, to ourselves or to others as one necessarily leads to the other, then we have nothing, and they means nothing. Liberty and freedom are concepts that either belong inherently to all, or they belong to none. Seek only to preserve yours, and you shall join those whom you disagree with in subjection. Such is inevitable.
Your ‘Country’, is not a piece of real estate, which itself has had as many names as it has had occupants. It is not a system of government, which the inhabitants chose for themselves. It IS the people themselves that ultimately define ANY country. Borders or boundaries have always been subject to change, but people define a country by their identification with it. If you fight for country, remember whom and what you defend.
Liars make oaths and do not care whether they are kept, spout words from their mouths they do not mean, and lie ultimately to themselves to justify within themselves their own actions. Truth or fiction has little relevance to them, and ‘law’ or ‘justice’ only apply to themselves at convenience. An ‘oath’ is but a means to and end, which is dropped as soon as it is made by such.
Nothing is sacred in any manner to a liar. Morality is something that applies only if they are personally injured, but not of any import when they injure others.
To all, quit lying to yourselves when you tell yourselves that they shall not get around to you eventually.
If you weren’t lying to yourselves, then why is there a tight knot in your stomach concerning unfolding events?
If the events were for good, then why are you personally frightened, deep inside where no one else can know?
Look at the history of mankind with open eyes, and then tell me these things will simply go away….
Great article. I agree with you with the exception of your take on Gandhi. The British absolutely raped India, and left it a starving and beaten country that has suffered for decades.
A Bloody Revolution. (http://www.restoretherepublic.org/?p=2469)
“There are many groups out there that are participating in protests, and marches geared toward what they believe will be a peaceful revolution, something that has never been accomplished in known history. They will tell you, ‘We will never use violence’, which is of course a very noble stand.
“The beatings, incarcerations, and the imprisonment of those who participate in protests, or just the innocents caught up in governments desire to maintain its power structure seems never to be thought of in terms of violence. Forgive my ignorance in the matter, but peaceful would denote a move that is debate, resolution, and conclusion without the acts of aggression on either side. Am I wrong in being such a purist? Should I turn my head when some young man, or woman is sentenced to years in prison because the government is fighting the fictitious ‘war on drugs’? Should I look away as the caskets come home from the battlefield? Should I shrug my shoulders, and laud the fact that we are peaceful as the thousands of young men we send off to foreign entanglements come home crippled and distraught?
“What we are now engaged in is pacifism. We, that is to say those who claim they would never use violence, are willing to endure any type of physical pain, even death rather than to take up arms to defend. One of our biggest issues is that we do not understand the definition of our own course.”
I have wondered what would unify and pull this country together after tshtf – when that happens, I truly believe the loss of life will be unthinkable, and that life as we know it today will not exist. In that new world, we will need something as compelling as our founding fathers felt that will rally prople into action. We can’t allow the political processes of the past century to be resurrected, and the nwo elitists won’t hesitate to jump into the void. But people today are so divided and polarized, I’m not sure there is anything strong enough right now to pull us together. There’s too much “me, me, me”.
Nick:
By the British “limiting their brutality” I meant that they didn’t try to wipe every Indian off the face of the planet, as Hitler tried to do with the Jews, and they did in fact have to put on a pleasant face for the rest of the world. I think in the event of a new revolution, the elites will lean more towards the Nazi end of the brutality spectrum than the British end, which would make non-violent resistance less effective.
And yeah, I have that knot in the pit of my stomach, and I am afraid of what lies ahead. But I also know I don’t what a continuation of what has been forced on me, so fear aside, I don’t intend to just sit idly by like I’ve done too much in the past. That’s why I read giordano….I’ve got a lot of learning to do!
I feel full after reading this, I just saw myself somewhere in a highly probable future speaking these words to people around me. The words that come to my mind is that this is truth and truth is food for the soul of humanity which seeks to ascend into the heavens, not descend into the depths
All,
Not sure where “Calm” was going with his diatribe about the media. First of all, in most social and or cultural crises, there is seldom one person, group or reason for culpability or explanation. The media in this country have been ‘off the mark’ in terms of being the voice of reason or consciousness of the people for many decades; truth in journalism is more of an ideal since the end of WW II than a reality. Consider for a moment just the Modern World’s example of dictatorship or totalitarian governments. What was one common and initial move made to control the people, control of the media-state run media is a hallmark of Nazis Germany, Fascist Italy, and Communist Russia, Cuba, and socialist China. There’s a thread here and a motive which is, fortunately, being increasingly diminished by independent news medium and the Internet. Thus, the control of the media isn’t the problem, but a symptom of the controllers. In this instance, it’s a combination of Progressives, Social Justice Advocates, and uber-liberals, the new elitists in America. These are the same people who really don’t care what society does, what happens to the economy or what politicians do or don’t do. Why, because their money is still unaffected by any events of the past three or four decades, they’re the people who can afford to relocate to Argentina, Guatemala, or Chile. Their “world” is not dependent upon the same factors which We the People deal with and worry about daily. Since these nouveau elitists either instigated the socio-economic and political woes over the last half century or worked in conjunction with other like-minded entities, it is no wonder they should seek out a culprit or scapegoat for the “good of the general public.”
I don’t think the media is going to be needed by any right-minded American seeking a return to a more rational and Constitutionally-grounded America. As Mr. Bruno stated, the Internet is a more positive medium for the truth than the News Media. Also, consider the case in Iran over the last year. By the way, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is NOT the leader of Iran; the Ayatollah is! Islamic nations know no such concept as “Separation of Church and State;” this is a completely Western (and modern) concept! The Iranians could not, and will not, be able to stop their citizens from getting information in and out of the country by avenues not able to be controlled by the leadership unless they become more totalitarian than they already are. They would have to take over complete and total control over ALL aspects of society, the economy, and the military and international businesses from within their country. The degree to which this would create an oppressive nation would remind too many of the worst aspects in the past of countries like the USSR, Cuba, China, etc.
But wait, what’s that you say, we’re heading that way NOW! And this is at the heart of what believe Mr. Bruno was getting to with his passage. There are some people in the US who may feel the current economic, political, social and international problems are either recent (within the last 9 or 10 years) or began with the end of the Clinton Administration. However, history and time will prove the veracity of truth behind the guilty parties in this truly frightening turn of events in our nation. This is NOT the Democratic Republic our Founding Fathers envisioned, nor, sadly, is this the kind of country, political system, and economy my grandfather knew and loved. Ultimately one of the key elements of the motive for those who advocate a ‘Fundamental Change’ of ANY ASPECT of the United States of America will be a simple human motive, that of greed.
The desire to maintain and increase the aforementioned Nouveau Elite’s profit margins and estates, is understandable, but never to be tolerated at the expense of what THEY are willing to give up…our rights, which by the way are not man-centered or provided by any man-made entity, but must come from the Divine Creator, God. Allowing these elitists to separate our nations legacy from a belief in God is the most terrible treason, because all the other ills which their efforts have, and will, produced are somewhat predicated on their ability to start with the media in all its permutations and extend the de-emphasis of God into our educational system. A common misconception of the Founding Fathers, and by extension the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, is they were agnostic or atheistic in intent. Unfortunately, ALL our Founding Fathers, and indeed the vast majority of people who lived in the original Thirteen Colonies were God-fearing and religious people. There are few, if any, examples of 18th century agnostics or atheists who were publically known as such; this is a fairly modern sobriquet.
Much of the removal of religion as a common character trait of most Americans, began as a companion to many of the movements and trends of the sixties, and on a personal note, being born in 1958, while not as “Sixties-oriented” as some of those in politics today, and especially among the ranks of the current Administration and crop of Czars, I do know about the attitudes, perspectives and emotions engendered by the varying protests and statements of discontent against “the man.” There was much bandying and use of the word “freedom” during the Sixties, and whether your name was Ayers, Hoffman or Barrigan, freedom of the individual was a stated and unstated goal. Expanding one’s mind led to freedom of thought and action; whether those positions were demonstrated through experimenting with LSD, mushrooms, or living on communes, burning your bra or burning your draft card, it amounted to being left alone by the establishment and being unfettered by excessive laws and regulations. Yet, however “revolutionary this might have been viewed by the members of the older generations and the establishment, it was bounded by some rational limitations in the minds of many young people. God still was not a ‘target’ of those who had issues with authority or the establishment; God was still “alive.”
Today, we see a proliferation of visual and auditory images which seem to belie the existence of a social acceptance of the sanctity of religion and God’s place in our society and culture in the ways manifested in previous generations. Let’s face it, in many towns and cities in this country, you can go into almost any drugstore and find examples of pornography displayed. You can turn on the TV Guide Channel and see X-rated movie titles displayed at any time of day. It used to be considered a normal practice to be more discreet when advertising these items. Look at our advertisement on TV, news publications and especially the Internet. Freedom of expression doesn’t mean “anything goes.” I know this is right because those people who support the display of pornography or exploitive products will also be those who demonstrate and demand an end to the death penalty, the positive qualities of abortion as a woman’s inalienable right, etc….But, if you counter this perspective by saying, “then we should allow public punishment of crimes to include public executions” these same people will come up with all sorts of explanations and exceptions to their support of the First Amendment! We have arrived at a place in man’s history, or at least that of Western Civilization, where anything goes, and the ideas, goals and demands of the (loud) liberal minority dictate what the majority experience. So, how is this different from having a King and a Parliament or a Dictator and Politburo tell the citizens how, when, and where they will live their lives? I think a Second Revolution is indeed in order, but, I believe as Dr. King and Mahatma Gandhi did, that non-violent protest can be the key to success. We the People have quite simply forgotten the amount of power we have. Let the elitists leave this country. If they stay, we will find ways to bypass the root of their power and financial strength. We will overcome, we the majority.
Hi! Mikail Kleisthenes
I would like to know the difference between a media owned by corporate elites and those of state-run outlets as in Germany or wherever?
The U.S. is a corporation and not a country. Thus, the media is state owned and operated.
http://tiny.cc/4yy75
If the truth be known, I don’t honestly think that “Revolution” is possible.
I did not get into details because I would of only been repeating myself with comments I made in the forum at earlier dates and times.
Reply #16 on: March 21, 2010
http://www.neithercorp.us/nforum/economics/what_steps_have_you_taken-t1208.0.html
I don’t think that it is possible to change the “Complete System” by “Revolution”.
And nor would I attempt to do this. It is a losing proposition.
I think that people who think that “Revolution” is possible are dreaming unrealistic dreams.
The media will destroy you.
The press will be filming protests and then turn the film over to the police for the identification and prosecution of the protesters.
The media is not our friend. They are collaborators or the propaganda arm of government.
I set my ideals or intent upon a lower scale …. a more true sense of economic equality. I only encourage any method to force the Ruling Class to “Tweak” the “System” and not “Revolution”.
I asked earlier for anybody to point out an instance where the Ruling Class ever gave the Lower Class anything without the threat of violence?
I don’t think there is such an instance.
And …. please don’t give me the fairytale about “Non-Violence”. Martin Luther King and Ghandi succeeded because of violence and not peaceful means. It is the Ruling Class which has taught us this fairytale and we lap it up as though it was truth.
Do we not remember the immigrant protests of 2006?
They shut down complete cities all over America.
They brought business to a halt.
And, they did it “Non-Violently” but always with the threat of upping the violence and increasing the protest.
Within 4 days, Congress was back in session with a new Codeword …. “Comprehensive Reform”.
That is the only way the ordinary citizen can “Tweak” the “System” or get the System to recognize and act upon grievances.
Other than that …. nothing will change.
And, when I think of the media and how Gobbels was in Germany …. is it not damning to realize that the same people who fled Germany because of sterotyping Jews and whatever …. That these same “Victims” fled Europe and invested heavily into Hollywood during the 1950′s.
In fact they controlled Hollywood and they produce films and propaganda which criminalized blacks and dehumanized the Aboriginals.
The same people who fled Hitler’s crimes, committed the identical crime in North America.
Hollywood did huge harm to blacks and Indians and used the same tools and in the same fashion that Gobbels had used against them.
Calm
You may enjoy this message. It links to my blog, but I have not blogged in over two years.
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The problem with any revolution is you eventually end up in the same place. I think it’s high time we all engaged in a little evolution.
Great article.
Power to the people x
The problem with achieving change or restitution by peaceful aims is that this method is precisely what the tares want they occupy public opinion by means of their ability to spread their lies through the media. It is their tool of deception and has always been their tool of choice. Almost without the shedding of blood I am afraid this country is doomed and I do not write this happily I am a disabled vet, and buried my father a veteran of two wars. I love this country and all of the people in it. I cannot do much but this corruption has to be stopped. America was not founded on the principals of being a world power nor had she global ambitions this has been thrust upon us the last 100 years our ancestors came here to get away fromm globalism and petty wars for domination. Health care should have been nationalized many years ago (not Socialized care)The fact that we can ship Billions of dollars overseas and maintain armies over there to protect global interests is absurd in the meantime we have institutions of lifetime welfare which is wrong greedy corporations that ship wealth overseas (i.e. your jobs for cheap profit labor)unsecured borders I wish for peaceful means but I don’t see it yes the tares own hollywood and yes they occupy the banking systems but they can be overcome if honest people will take a stand remember when honest people do nothing evil triumphs.
This question may sound a bit strange but did our Lord Jesus Christ ever get violent? The answer to that is, YES! When did He get violent? When He ran the money changers(those who practiced usury) out of His Father’s House. He didn’t ask them to politely leave, He knocked their tables over scattering their filthy money everywhere. I said that to say this. We need to know who our enemies are. We are our own worst enemy. Sure, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that our country(we the people)is in deep debt. How did we get this way? We allowed our own greed to set us up and destroy the very fabric of this nation from within. The first thing we need to do is ask God to forgive us and break down that barrier we built between us and God. 2nd, we need to pray for His wisdom and guidance in what we should do. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”. If there is just one thing I’m sure of, that is, there is a living God in Heaven and He is sitting at the right hand of His and our Father, God Almighty. Ask Him for advice. That is what I’m going to do. I’m not so sure that everything is set in stone. Things of this world are subject to change and sometimes, not peacefully.
Common Sense one line to add is if God be for us who can be against us. Folks Goliath is always going to be intimidating but remember he was brought down by a simple pebble in an instant. Yes before actions are done we should seek God and His wisdom and take inventory in our own lives however I am afraid the more time delayed the bigger Goliath becomes now if this can be done by elections cool if not then force is the only option philosophy alone simply plays into the hands of the tares they are masters of it.
Tracy:
I think the key to exposing new people to this information is to start out small, and back everything you say with evidence.
The problem is that a lot of people in this field try to explain the situation to their families, but they bury the listeners in information. People will not listen to us if we don’t lay out the essentials with care. Also, some of us just aren’t natural teachers, in which case a well made documentary is the best medicine for breaking ground.
I find that when talking to people about the NWO, starting with the Federal Reserve is best. People deal with money everyday, so its more tangible to them. Also, there is so much readily available evidence of the Fed’s subversion that it basically incriminates itself. Once people understand the Fed and the scam of central banking, everything else falls into place.
Also, don’t take it personally if people shrug you off at first. We were all naive about the NWO at one point in our lives. Getting overly angry at their ignorance solves nothing.
Stay passionate, but stay logical. Know your info inside and out, never stop sharing it, and you can’t go wrong.
Thanks for the Great article Giordano. Your advice to Tracy is excellent also. I have experienced exactly what you described as “not being a natural teacher” many times, and only recently realized that the ice breaker should have been/should be the Federal Reserve/Central Bank issue. You just made that fact that much clearer to me. Thanks again.
Gio,
Remember: When you are over the target, you’ll start receiving flak!
Thats when its time to open the bomb bay doors and turn them loose!
Excellent article. It appears there are lots more people listening. I salute you for your efforts.
COINTELPRO, a program instituted by the FBI in the 60’s and 70’s, is a well documented example of government disruption tactics. FBI “moles” insinuated themselves into anti-war and anti-federal groups, then created internal divisions, played egos, promoted undue violent acts to discredit the cause, and in some cases even weaseled their way into leadership positions in protest organizations, allowing them to totally unbalance and sabotage them. These same tactics are used today, with very little variation, except that the false left / right paradigm is utilized much more effectively. You have described Alex Jones to a ‘T’. Alex is working for the elites, no question about it.
Good article, but if you read this one you will be able to fill in a missing aspect that is inherent in the elitist mentality…
http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/485/
Also, read the two articles mentioned at the beginning of this article so that you can see the truth of the matter.
Hi! Mark Are
I too found the “Ponerology” concepts quite interesting.
That is why I believe that the Ruling Class sells the Lower Class a conscience.
What could be more evil than the Rich Folks walking past homeless people and with a sneer upon their faces?
The only reason the Rich Folks are “Allowed” to flaunt their wealth is because they use this wealth to sell us all “Religion” and a conscience. They don’t want the poor folks sneering as they see Rich Folks being strung-up on a lamp post in some sinister dark alley or out behind some abandoned gas station.
The Inner Landscape of the Psychopath
From: The Mask of Sanity, by Hervey Cleckley, 5th edition
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/innerpsycho.htm
I have this e-Book and would upload it if you were interested.
The Mask Of Sanity (e-Book)
An Attempt to Clarify Some Issues About the So-Called Psychopathic Personality
By Hervey M. Cleckley
November 1988
http://www.amazon.com/Mask-Sanity-Attempt-Psychopathic-Personality/dp/0962151904
Or I have the articles you referenced here:
http://tiny.cc/e2vlx
And finally, I would like to reference this article as well.
Delusion of exceptionalism
By Paul Campos
October 02, 2007
http://tiny.cc/85952
Calm
Mark:
That’s an interesting take on elitism, and parts of it are applicable, but it assumes certain things which have been proven false, including the assumption that morality is subservient to environment. In fact, morality is determined far more by archetypal “dualities” inherent in the human psyche from the moment of our birth as discovered by Carl Jung, and reinforced by numerous scientists. These dualities form what we call “conscience”, a psychological force which underlies all intuitive morality.
Nobody knows yet what the source of archetypal conscience is, but it is a scientific fact of existence. Environment can obstruct or interfere with inborn morality, but it cannot remove or change it fundamentally.
You can read more about this in one of our recent articles:
http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=214
And you can see our film which covers some major points on “blank slate theory” and how it is faulty:
http://neithercorp.us/media
Society is not destructive because the elites made it that way. Society is destructive because the qualities of what we call evil are inborn, just as conscience is inborn. This is the source of free will. We always have a choice, even in the worst of environments, to do the right thing. The elites merely play to our darker natures in the hopes of luring us into terrible deeds. Without them, we remove a destructive influence, but the only way to stop “evil” is for every man to achieve personal awareness and individuation. Otherwise, it will always exist.
Gio,how do I wake up the people that I care about to face the perilous situation we are all in. No matter what line of persuasion that I use, they still turn a blind eye and return to the role of slowly being boiled liked a frog until it will be too late for them to defend themselves or revolt against the system.I am hoping that with a jolt of globalist reality such as all of a sudden the food shelves at the stores are bare etc.., these people will get their butts in gear. If there is a method of persuation that I am missing out on, please let me know.It is very hard to stand back, be silent and watch your friends go down the tube. I am not looking forward to that probable experience
Robb:
It really depends on the friend. Each person has unique “keys” which help in getting them to set aside biases and think objectively. You just have to find what those keys are, which can be difficult.
Often, the cold recital of facts is not enough. You have to be engaging in what you say. Also, if what you are telling them is an undeniable fact, make sure they know that. If you are right, be confident (make sure you are actually right though).
It is also better if people question you than simply ignore you. If they question you, then that gives you an opportunity to present your evidence. If they try to question the tangibility of the evidence, challenge them to look up the information themselves. Dare them to prove you wrong! When they try to do this, they will eventually find you were correct all along on their own.
This works with most people, but some will refuse to listen to reason, and are too ingrained in their faulty world view to be moved. Usually, it takes a “mental kick in the ass” (like the loss of their job, or even the beginning of a full economic collapse) to wake these people up, and there is little you can do until that happens.
That doesn’t mean you should stop talking to them. When they finally do receive that rude awakening, all the things you warned them about over the years will come rushing back.
“A country’s political structure must reflect accurately the dreams and aspirations of its people.” Since no one shares all of the same dreams and aspirations, this quest is possible only if there is no government, and everyone governs themselves.
“Peaceful Resistance, Or Armed Revolt?” Neither, simply stop legitimizing government with your vote, and stop feeding it with your taxes by minimizing you income and consumption. As both decline, government will oscillate between tyranny and accommodation in a desperate bid to survive. When it becomes more demanding of its host, its true nature of violence will be revealed to more people, who will consequently join in ignoring government, and using private alternatives, like “The Solution” in Fairbanks, AK.
P.S.
Kindly stop wasting space by quoting religious texts. It adds no value to political discussion, unless you intend to establish another theocracy like Iran or the Taliban. In which case so title your work, so it can be ignored.
If they exist, your gods or god have performed poorly. Get replacements. When you can prove that they exist and that they are on your side, let me know. Alternatively, when you prove Zeus does not exist, I will use your method to prove your god does not exist.
Your Jesus story was just plagiarized from previous religions like the ten commandments were plagiarized from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Get real!
Calm says:
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
Can somebody point to an instance where the Ruling Class ever gave anything to the Lower Class without the threat of violence?
nearly ALL JOBS in the USA are compliments of the “ruling class”. The use of that term says you’re a communist.
wtholmes:
“Since no one shares all of the same dreams and aspirations, this quest is possible only if there is no government, and everyone governs themselves…….”
Actually, that is an incorrect assumption, holmes. In fact, if you study archetypal psychology, you will find that there are elements of human nature which are UNIVERSAL to all cultures and peoples regardless of history or environmental conditions. They are called “Archetypes”, and they are the foundation for morality. For instance, at bottom everyone wants to be free to decide their own destinies. People can be fooled into believing they aren’t “capable”, but this does not remove the inherent desire for freedom. Therefore, since this ideal is universal, governments should reflect and nurture it. When they do not, they create imbalance in society, and thereby sow the seeds of revolution.
Also, at no point did I quote any biblical text in my article, so I’m not sure what you are referring to. Did you actually read the article?
I have studied comparative religion and the history of Christianity in particular for ten years, though I am not what people would consider a Christian. I can say with some authority that elements of the Christ story do match with Osiris, and Dionysian mythology, however, this proves little to nothing. Just because the mythology is similar does not mean that the man did not exist. And while the Church as an organization is responsible for considerable crimes, it WAS officially co-opted by elitists around 300 A.D. It is foolish to discount the merits of an entire spiritual system just because its leadership was subverted. That’s like blaming all Muslims for the actions of one extremist sect.
Also, no one can prove that “God”, or a greater force in the universe, does NOT exist, or is not possible. Atheism is based on faith just as much as Christianity is. In fact, if you study quantum physics, I think there is far more scientific evidence to support the existence of a higher power than there is to support atheism. If a person doesn’t want to subscribe to a particular belief, then I would suggest that it is much wiser to say “I don’t know for certain…” than it is to claim “There’s no such thing….”
wtholmes,
It seems you have no belief in a god but, you use something He says we can have, faith. In essence, you say, stop feeding the beast, do this, do that, and everything will fall in place. The definition of faith is, the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. If you actually believe what you say, then, wow!, you may have some of that stuff, faith, that God has given us. So, it’s pretty hard to get God out of everything and do it all yourself. Remember, pride cometh before a fall. The truth is, we need God more than ever. Since some of us have no belief in Him and others have turned their backs on Him, maybe something a little different is called for. I am educated and even I can see the evidence of Him in the universe around us and in the DNA, that living blueprint we all have. God’s ways are higher than our ways as the heavens are above the earth. Just because you can’t see Him doesn’t mean He doesn’t exist. Can you actually see an atom or a strand of DNA? No!, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Besides, if God didn’t let us determine our own direction, wouldn’t that make Him a tyrant?
Gio,
thank you very much for the article and answer to the excellent observation of
JUS A THOUGHT
“The problem with any revolution is you eventually end up in the same place. I think it’s high time we all engaged in a little evolution.”
Gio: “The elites merely play to our darker natures in the hopes of luring us into terrible deeds. Without them, we remove a destructive influence, but the only way to stop “evil” is for every man to achieve personal awareness and individuation. Otherwise, it will always exist.”
Eckhart Tolle’s book THE NEW EARTH suppurts your truth. Don’t let the title fool anyone, he clearly explains and affirms your statement extremely logically, based on the wisdom of history’s greats, mostly Jesus.
Your article will be forwarded to those here in ‘post’-communist countries involved with human rights organizations under pressure, being prepared for “[Their] primary strategy is to co-opt them.”
External pressures, or the constant perception of impending danger is a great tool for co-opting. Seems here, to work well with JUST a few well planted seeds of x, y, and z.
Who started co-opting first? Elite rullers, Communist, FBI? Or was it just Elitist Class 101? Possibly the snake and the apple?
Thank you for your timely words which can help so many to individually evolve: Love, Respect, and Trust ourselves so we are able to work together for change.
I say we need to awaken what I call the radical center, break the destructive cycle of polarity that has us stuck and is getting us nowhere.
Beyond that I think it is time to go back to the core, check the common values of a diverse people. I took the Liberty a couple of years ago to do a bit of an edit on the Declaration of Independence for that purpose.
Declaration of Equality, Rights and Responsibilities
(The Declaration of Independence as amended by Bill Chisholm)
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men, women and children of all races, of all nations, of all beliefs, of all social and economic circumstances are created equal. That they are endowed by their Creator, with certain, sure, and inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Consciousness and Contentment. That inherent in these rights are also undeniable responsibilities, that among these are Good Neighborliness, Respectful Environmental Stewardship, Personal Accountability and Accountability to Future Generations. To insure these Rights and foster these Responsibilities, government was instituted among humankind and derives its just powers from the consent of the governed. That the surest way to insure one’s Rights, is to embrace one’s Responsibilities. When any form of Government becomes destructive of those Ends, it is the right, it is the duty of the People to alter or abolish it, preferably at the ballot box or peacefully in the streets.
It is further acknowledged as a self evident truth that humankind is a part of Nature. That Nature is made up of interconnected and interdependent systems and species, and that all species and ecological systems should be accorded respect, for they too have come from the same Creator. To best insure our inalienable rights, we must embrace our responsibilities toward Nature.
Gio, thank you for your great answer to my previous question.My way of revolting from the system is by trying to establish a community of at least 30 people outside of the area controlled by the powers that be.If there is an outside incursion into the community, we try to defend ourselves.My question is this.I have the location picked, I have been stockpiling for a couple of years,including weapons. Lately I have convinced my daughter, her husband and a co worker to help me out.With most people in denial, how do you organize a community of at least 30 people, [with say 10 people who have weapons and know how to use them]in time and or will there be a short grace period to prepare after the collapse? The location is in Ontario, not the U.S.
Gio, with respect to the other bloggers,should I ask my final question, which is out of context with this subject, and go to your article “Surviving Economic Collapse…..”, to ask this question, or can I ask it here?
Gio,
You gave non-Bruno a smackdown.Thanks for all your hard work.
Robb:
Its no problem, I can answer it here.
Its hard to give a full answer without knowing the logistics of your particular situation, and I certainly wouldn’t ask for them anyway, but I can try to help as much as is humanly possible.
30 people is actually a pretty large group. Some survivalists would say too large, mainly because it might draw more attention. However, I can see the virtue in having greater numbers as long as your retreat location can handle the traffic, and as long as there is enough stored food to accommodate everyone for at least a years time. Otherwise, you get starving people fighting over scraps, and disaster will soon follow. So, double check your food and water supply carefully, and be dead honest with yourself as far as how many people you can feed.
It is imperative to have all your preparations in order before a dollar collapse is triggered, or any other nightmare event. When the real breakdown starts, all you should have to worry about is getting everyone to your retreat safely. Any other worries could prove distracting, not to mention deadly.
At bottom, you want people who WANT to work with you. Though it might sound a little cold, anyone who is wishy-washy about committing to a survival plan could turn into a liability. If you have serious doubts about their trustworthy-ness, I would take them out of the loop now and save yourself serious problems down the road. Unless they are family, of course, then you’ll just have to reason with them (a solid kick to the rear may be required).
Also, even though you are in Canada, make sure your retreat location is at least a 2 hour drive away from the nearest city, or about 150 miles. This makes it less likely that masses of people fleeing urban and suburban areas will run into your retreat on foot. 150 miles is a difficult walk, and large roaming bands of looters will be more apt to disperse or fight with each other before they get to you.
All,
After spending quite a bit of time digesting what has been expressed here, I must say that I am excited at the awakenings occurring. I sit without that fearful, clenched stomach, despite the loud voice of the wizard (Goliath) broadcast from behind the curtain of deception and illusion.
I love that personal responsibility was brought up several times. Yes people, we must start with our own sphere of influence. It has been said enough to border on cliche, but the phrase “Be the change you wish to see in the world” really does say a lot. If it is freedom and individuality that you so desire, then you must allow others their individual expression and freedom. In this realm of duality, there can be no other way.
I honor each of you in your path of freedom and truth. To the Iraq war vet, if you read this I would ask that you turn your friends on to this site. I believe in the oath of the USMC, a Marine is pledged to defend America from all enemies, foreign AND domestic.
We vote everyday with our dollars (or other currency if you are not in the US). Cast your vote for local, artisan, organic, and authentic. Avoid NWO conglomerates like walmart or mcdonalds. Vote wisely! Your everyday choices DO make a difference. Evolution is a conscious choice.
In Light………
Morphwithme.
Gio, for anybody who is interested, you can buy dried bulked foods at Mormon facilities and use their canning euipment, all in the same location. They are very big on storing food. Up here in Canada, they allow people in off the streets. I have dealt with them. for about 3 years now.To find out about your local Mormon facility, type in http://www.providentliving.To have a view of what is available,prices and storage life per item, on their home page go to left side and click ” Familly Home Storage”, then click “Home Storage Center Order Form U.S.”, on the right side.Hope this has been helpful.
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Morph,
what a great, all encompassing answer to many peoples points. I really appreciate your ability to find the commonality among the very diverse.
Gio,
very insightful answer for Robb.
I would just like to further support your advice by adding that even with enough food, the psychological pressures inside of a protected ‘island’ surrounded by a threat of unknown size, intellegence, and capabilities can have destructive affects on those not mentally prepared for such constant pressure over the long term. Individual egos can grind down internal cohesiveness quite quickly.
Maybe a plan to prepare for the psychological challlenges you will encounter could be helpful.
I suggest reading LORD OF FLIES agian. Watching movies like: THE BEACH, THE VILLAGE, CAST AWAY, etc..
All of these stories depend on re-connecting with society as the final solutions, yet they can be a learning tool to prepare for the tough questions.
Tough trials before you lock yourself up with 30 people and loaded weapons, for some unknown length of time? Playing the what-if game before moving there? The unforseen always comes, so your abilities to adapt and overcome will depend on each individuals motivation as the unifying force. Is the motivation based on those ideals that have the long term potential.
After an astounding year in Iraq (this century), and many questions since then, a humble observation is: I hope the others have your convictions, morals, ethics and unifying love. Fear divides, love unites.
It is just food for thought.
Everyone that should know, already knows that we are close to a revolution in this country. No one knows when that “first shot” will happen. It has to be widely recognized as the “first shot”. This requires accurate reporting by the media. In the days of the American revolution, the “media” was word of mouth.
The NEW media is the Internet. TV, newspapers, magazines are DEAD to the people that seek the real truth.
Maybe there is something in the air around the world.
As this article points out extremely well.
Actions due to anger (really fear), will only bring more fear and internal destruction later on.
Be for a sustainable ideal based on reliable principles.
The ones you truly love.
To Gio,listened to survival expert Jim Rawles on Coast to Coast afew nites ago. The fellow seems to know what he is talking about.One thing bothers me, though,is that alot of his solutions are designed for people with alot of money.For example, don’t try and get out of Dodge at the 11th hour.Prelocate to your chosen area and wait for the coming storm.What happens to 75% of us that must maintain jobs, in the city or whereever, to keep going and to pay for preparations etc.We are stuck in Dodge until the 11th hour.All that can be done is pay closer attention to the prevailing winds, ie Gio’s economic signs for a collapse. The only other thing that I can think of is get to know all of the backroads to your chosen spot.Purpose, to avoid if possible, the panicking people who have not prepared.Question, during a collapse, would the authorities immediately block off all the main roads or might we have a day to vamoose.The only insurance that I am counting on is when food and gas supplies are shut off,I am hitting the backroads.Thanx
Robb:
I have only read Jim Rawles’ book “Patriots”, so I am not completely familiar with his outlook on survival. I did enjoy the book and I recommend it to people looking for survival solutions, even though it is written as a “fictional” account of economic collapse.
I can say that the main characters in his story are the “ideal” survivalists, being that they have ample funds. This is not the situation of most survivalists, though. Very few of us can afford a farm in Idaho with a stockpile of 5 years worth of food, a years worth of gasoline, and 300,000 rounds of ammunition. Even with an organized group of people, this would be difficult to pull off.
What I like most about his book is his description of the events preceding collapse, and how they would unfold.
Just like you, I am concerned about highway travel during collapse. I don’t know if regular police will still be functioning, though. If hyperinflation is in effect, it is doubtful that state governments will be able to pay or maintain law enforcement, at least after a certain point. I think a greater threat would come from roving bands of looters who stake out highways hoping for easy pickings. Even backroads are a danger. To be honest, having a car with lots of gas is no guarantee of safety. Some people with strong survival skills might be better off on foot and away from all roads, where they will draw less attention.
I have two suggestions:
If any of the major signs we talk about here at Neithercorp arise, go to your retreat location immediately, before food and gas run out.
If you do get caught in the mix before final breakdown, travel with at least a small group in more than one car, or on foot, and use backroads. Never use highways. Engage road looters only when absolutely necessary. A round from an AK-47 can penetrate an engine block, so don’t count on your vehicle to offer foolproof protection.
Make sure your retreat is not too far from where you live. More than a day’s drive is extremely hazardous. Remember, the farther you have to travel the greater the chance that you’ll run into prepared opposition.
If gas rises above $150 a barrel, or 4 dollars a gallon, get several large portable gas cans and fill them up. Add “fuel saver” which you can buy online. This way, you can be sure to have enough fuel on hand to get where you need to go. If gas goes above $150 a barrel again, I can promise people that hyperinflation has started and it won’t stop. $40 to $50 a gallon would not be out of the question.
Gio, thanx for your last answer.You had mentioned in your article “Economic Signs to watch out for” the following “Simultaneous Dow/Dollar Drop”.You specified that interest rates may be raised in June or July.With this specific indicator, say rates go up in June, do you think we still have time until the fall, before a collapse?As of yesterday The Bank of Canada just started raising interest rates.The bank’s governor, I think his name is Carney, is an ex Goldman Sachs employee.Do you think this is something to watch out for?As an aside,here an AK 47 is illegal.But you can get an SKS NORINCO semiautomatic rifle [predessesor to the AK47] and 1100 rounds of 76.28 by 39 nato ammo for less than 500.00 canadian.What do you think of this rifle?I wonder if the Powers that Be are spreading cheap weapons and ammo so as to enable civil unrest and chaos.All the best
All,
I want to relate a true story that occurred on the Big Island of Hawaii that relates to this discussion.
During a night in Oct 2006, a large earthquake hit the island. The infrastructure of the island is already weak, and it was considerably weakened by the quake. In the morning, much of common daily activities were suspended. Roads were closed, as many had major damage, and some water supply was cut off. One would suspect that there was mass chaos on the island. Alas, this was not the case. People drew together to help each other out. It was like kids on summer vacation from school, there was much good cheer, and a new perspective that our differences are a lot less important than our similarities, which include the drive to survive. It was beautiful to behold, and in the aftermath of the quake, many new friendships were forged and new connections were made. It ended up being a blessing rather than a curse.
I bring this up because I see a thread in this discussion which has the theme of “us against them”. We all want to survive. There will be folks who are unprepared. Should we ignore their needs because we had better information on the web? I think not. It would behoove us all if we banded together when the shtf so that we not only survive, but we thrive, building a new barter system based on real connections made during tough times. The only way we are going to draw power from the elites is to band together locally. Think about this folks…..the modus operandi of the elites is “divide and conquer”. If we support this division, then we are dead meat. When the shtf, it is time to band together…..those who are lagging behind will catch up quickly. Indeed, they will need our help just to survive….and that will turn them into valuable allies.
I sincerely hope none of this comes to pass. If it does however, I implore all of you to embrace your community and band together to form a local economy which will survive the crises.
With respect……
Morphwithme.
Morphwithme, I personnally concure with you on that.That is a very strong tenant of Catherine Austin Fitts of Solari.com, a very classy lady.All the best Robb
Thanks Morph,
United we stand, Divided we Fall.
What can be the stongest bonding element?
Gio,
Thanks again for the co-opting insight.People are prepared to watch for co-opting; so how to keep an organization from being afraid of each other, even before the mole gets there?
Or what to do once a mole is seriously suspected.
This is not a hypothetical question. Some groups over here are under alot of pressure from the ‘post’-communist system to stop rocking the boat.
Several organizations started by fighting against the system. The founders have been continually persecuted and are now very fearful to trust each other and new members wanting to help, but maybe in a ‘next generation’ way. They are fearful, and division and stagnation may set in.
Your view is truly appreciated.
WishGranted:
I’m actually trying to develop a solution to that problem right now, believe it or not. The idea is not quite ready yet, but I’ll post an article as soon as it is.
As far as sniffing out a mole, its about the same as sniffing out a web troll. They act the same way, use the same playbook, say the same scripted talking points. Its just getting everyone in the movement up to speed in recognizing those signs that is the hard part.
If you can, print out and give our article on ‘Disinformation Tactics’ to everyone you know in the Liberty Movement, and even people who aren’t. You can find it here:
http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=251
We’re working on the problem of co-option, and the problem of “disjointed” groups and infighting. I’ll let you know soon what we come up with.
Robb, do you know if Saiga rifles are illegal in canada? If not I would suggest going with one of these. They make an exact Ak47 clone with the exception of the stock not having a pistol grip, trigger is about an inch further back and they must be slightly modified to accept AK mags. However, the build quality on them is second to no other AK on the market and they are usually legal in areas where standard AKs are illegal. Do a search for Saiga 7.62 x 39.
As a second option an SKS will do just fine. They are a little more finicky compared to an AK, but then again, everything is. And, believe it or not that 500 Canadian may seem cheap for a rile and 1100 rounds, but 5 years ago you could have had the exact same thing for around half the price. All firearm and ammo prices are massively inflated right now due to very high demand.
Wikity, thanx for taking the time to reply.I think Saiga is illegal in Canada.Could you please clarify what you mean “that an Sks is alittle finiky compared to an AK47″.The reason that I ask, is that being an owner of an SKS, I would like to know as much about this gun as possible.For example, are they as rugged as an AK47 etc..?Thanx Wikity from Robb
Gio,
I appreciate your honesty about trying to fix co-opting and other distractors from the focus. It will benefit many. Since I opened Pandora’s box over here, (presenting a problem with a solution), I’ve been working on an idea:
The Math doesn’t lie rule.
Meaning if someone brings up a question or tactic that exponentially diverts energy and attention away from the groups focus, there is an indicator.
Imagine a pyramid scheme of people trying to solve some introduced contravercy. It starts with a few waisting each others time at the peak, until finally I am now bothering you at the bottom of the pyramid. (such as Alinsky tactic #3)
Making members aware of “the Math rule”, may also calm those honest supports who naturally like to challenge everyone and everything.
I feel compelled to share news from ‘post”communism, since someone may try and use those tactics in America.
As well, innocent recent imagrant may fall into a dis-functional pattern of dis-connecting those around them, simply because that is the way they were raised by “the State” since age one year old.
Here in the land of passive-agressive, acts of violence are rare, where as mental exhaustion and frustion are commonplace.
Fabulous Article,‘Disinformation Tactics’, http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=251
Ran across this while researching your MUST READ article (above).
“Hillary Rodham Clinton Returning to Wellesley for her final year, Rodham wrote her senior thesis about the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky…which became restricted”
I will keep you posted on what I can find out from those few who opposed communism and survive here.
I appreciate we need to know how to protect ourselves with the truth, yet I would appreciate a real look at how to be so strong in love, character and conviction, so these tactics become inert.
Fear Divides, Love Unites.
It is interesting to hear certain kinds of people insist that the citizen cannot fight the government. This would have been news to the men of Lexington and Concord, as well as the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan. The citizen most certainly can fight the government, and usually wins when he tries. Organized national armies are useful primarily for fighting against other organized national armies. When they try to fight against the people, they find themselves at a very serious disadvantage. If you will just look around at the state of the world today, you will see that the guerillero has the upper hand. Irregulars usually defeat regulars, providing they have the will. Such fighting is horrible to contemplate, but will continue to dominate brute strength.
I disagree with the pollyanish assessment of the moron’s who insist that government is too ‘big’ to take on.
My assertion is once it is attacked, it will capitulate, strictly as they are cowards and do not want to fight, but jump into their bizjets and flee the scene of the crime to avoid being caught and possibly tried for TREASON and then HANGED as they should be.
When the first shots are fired on american civilians in this revolution, that will be the death knell to the ROTHSCHILDS BANKING CARTEL and it’s GRIP ON THE U.S.
it’s time. We will prevail. You can count on it!
Have a couple of things to say on this subject.
1-It isn’t enough to mearely survive in our own protected islands.
We need to relearn & develop the basics of society. I’m talking about blacksmithing, herbalism, dentistry, animal husbandry, hunting, trapping, etc.
2-We need to be in a position to pass those same skills of self-reliance back into the community at large.
3-This revolution couldn’t come to pass at a worse time in history. The lands & oceans are nearly depleted.
What we have left won’t be able to survive a hoard of starving people looking for anything edible to eat.
4.I believe communities of 30 are to small. Look at what happened to the native americans. Especially the Lakota…they were a large and powerful nation. They would of had a better chance of standing off the invasions if they
worked cohesively as a single entity instead of each band working independantly.
Perhaps it would be better to develop networks of communities?
I’ve actually seen two main ways people seem to deal with this issue once they become aware of it.
The first being the militia route, and the other seems to go by ‘going off the grid’ aproach.
Our cities & towns don’t seem to be taking care of the lands under their care anymore.
Perhaps we should start developing community farms. Whether they be public or secretive…I don’t know.
All I know is that complete disengagement from our communities is part of what started the mistrust against militia’s in the first place.
And if want to choose a christian perspective, isolation is the opposite of what we are commanded to do by Jesus.
Empty shelves in the stores won’t be what starts the trouble. It’ll be when they are still full but no one is able to buy them.
The only true way I can see us fighting off the globalists is by promoting & developing local centers of control.
Anyway, sorry for the rant…just wanted to throw some things out there to perhaps get you all thinking in a slightly different light (at least bout the seperation & isolation bit)
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